ProCom Dual Fuel Stove - 25,000 BTU, Model# QD250T
3 stoves for 2 years
Three years ago, I Installed three stoves in my six room, single story, 2200 sq. ft., 125 year old house, as the only heat source. I am amazed at the warmth they provide which is more than adequate. The old house is well insulated and holds heat well. Blowers on two stoves are good, but not a deal breaker, as heat is distributed slowly and well without them, too.
My only gripe after the two years is the oily film the stoves put on to my one year old double-pane windows by the air discharge! Now what.??
April 23, 2013
The stove works very nice for an open room and saves on having to run additional duct work to tie into furnace in the home.
April 23, 2013
Nice reliable unit
Have been using two of these units in a large 100 year old victorian. After two years they are going strong and they have paid for themselves many times over. One of the best investments I have ever made.
March 7, 2013
Great Addition to New House
"This little stove is the second Procom product I have purchased. It puts out a lot of heat on high, and can be adjusted down to quite low and has a nice thermostat that lowers the flame as it nears its set point. It turns itself off when it hits the thermostat's set point (except for the pilot). Because of this it is a perfect source of backup heat for our 2600 sq foot lake house when the power fails. Ours is run off propane and the power fails often and for long periods of time. We have a backup generator that also runs off propane, but this is a backup to that, and it looks nice too. For the price, it is cheap insurance against pipe freeze up. Even though the house is brand new, we had to use this stove for a week as backup heat when both the power and generator failed -- and the contractor could not get in due to snow.
As nice as it looks (the flames are a nice yellow color) nobody who has ever seen a wood fire will be fooled into thinking that this is a real wood fire. The fact that there is no chimney is also a giveaway that this is something different. My picture does not do it justice, this is as it was installed the first time it was fired up, but the house is not finished and it was still sitting on the cardboard.
Despite the fact it puts out lots of heat, it is safe. Our stove sits directly on the wood floor in the center of a long narrow house (new) on the middle level. The bottom of the unit does not get hot and the top only gets warm -- you can put your hand on the top and it won't burn you. There is a downside to that safety: it is not a cook stove, even without blower running the top does not get hot enough.
I would consider the blower to be optional. We have it and it helps the stove to heat the place up a bit more quickly, but it is not a must have. Procom has improved the blower instructions over the past three years, although they could do a better job showing you exactly where to run the wires down the back -- you don't want the wires to touch the inside box where the flames are.
One other annoyance: It took my contractor and I about an hour to figure out that the little battery (supplied with the stove) goes INSIDE the LITTLE button you push to start the pilot light! Since we both had older Procom fireplaces (which don't need batteries, they use a push button piezo sparker) this was very confusing to us both. Nowhere in the stove's instructions did it show us exactly where the battery went. FYI, we learned that the pilot can also be lighted with a match if the battery dies!
All in all, this is a bargain and a great stove."
February 21, 2013
Decided to get this stove for heat backup when power goes out. Kerosene has gotten so high in my area they are gouging it seems. This stove gets rid of the hassle of the fuel mess and smell from the kerosene. We love the stove so much that keeping it at a low level keeps the main part of the house very comfortable, much more so than the central unit does. We placed it on our fireplace hearth where it blends right in. Great value and we would suggest it to anyone.
January 22, 2013
Great stove, great value
I purchased this stove & blower to supplement oil fire heat. In this area it is not uncommon for temps to reach -40 f, so the on-demand heat this little unit packs is a welcome addition to my home, despite a couple of minor cons.
-The stove was a snap to install, the LP hook-up simple.
-This unit works great with a blower and using inducting ceiling fans to pull the heat for a 2nd floor. I think I spent more time figuring out where to put the stove than installing it. :)
-The blower instructions were awful and I ended up using common sense and got it done without too much aggravation.
-The very back log was offset by an inch or so, and I had to remount the screws on it to avoid having the log directly in the flame.
January 14, 2013
REVIEW OF PRO-COM HEATER QD 250T 25000 BTUs
REVIEW OF PRO-COM HEATER QD 250T 25000 BTUs JANUARY 1 -2013
I bought the heater, the Pro-Com blower that they recommend (QEB 100) and the installation kit from Northern Tool. Everything was well packed and they shipped fast by UPS. I also bought a combination CO 2 and fire/smoke detector.
We live in Montana at about 4700 foot elevation.
I installed this heater one month ago 12/1/12 and decided that it's time to do a review.
I read all the reviews before I bought it. There were about 180 reviews as I recall and there were only 2 that were unfavorable. Overall nothing really bad.
It was one of those rare things that just seemed to be too good to be true.
I liked the fact that it would put out heat even if there was a power outage.
We are on natural gas here so that was a plus.
We had a wood burning stove sitting on a brick base so I took it out and set this in it's place.
I had to run a gas line to it and that required drilling 2 one inch holes so I could run the 1/2" black pipe down through the floor and back up through the floor on the other side of the room. Tight quarters under the floor meant I had to measure very carefully. I had to make several trips to the hardware store but at least it's close by.
I had to have pipe cut and threaded. I also needed 1/2 " pipe tees, elbows, a pipe cap,
some close nipples, some short nipples and a pipe union. I bought the white pipe dope with a brush in the can (called tfe paste). It is slow drying which is a good thing. Everyone said don't use tape- use dope, it seals better and you don't want a gas leak.
(Tape was included in the installation kit but I feel better and safer using the dope.)
I got a lot of exercise because we have 24 stairs to get down to street level then around back of the building and in the back door. There I had a scaffold set up in a hallway and a ladder in a small sideroom. I was up and down countless times because I was working by myself and in cramped quarters with 2 pipe wrenches and flashlights and brushing pipe dope. But over a few days time I got it all put together and it passed the sniff and soap test with no leaks.
I have to agree with everyone else that the instruction book for the fan was very poorly written. But I got the fan in and finally found where the AA battery went.
It took a few minutes to purge the air from the line but soon I had the pilot lit and then the stove lit and it's been going ever since.
The odor from the initial burn was not bad at all. It was mild and only noticible the first few hours.
The fan is very quiet and has no vibration.
I can feel the heat from the flames standing 12 foot away in front of the heater on 'high'.
It really warms the air very well in an open room that measures 22'X 36'.
There's a thermometer at each end of this room and this heater keeps a nice 70 degrees at each end.
It's just a lot nicer in here now compared to when we just used the forced air natural gas furnace. The furnace is now in 'backup mode'.
This heater eliminated the uncomfortable cold spots in the room.
Since installing this heater the coldest weather we have had is 3 below zero.
Another nice thing is that with a ventless heater there is no heat loss up the chimney.
When the heater is set to low and it cycles off then a few minutes later the fan goes off.
When the heater cycles back on then in a few minutes the fan automatically comes on.
Everything works exactly as they said it should.
Comparison of cost for December 2011 using only our old forced air furnace and
December 2012 using mostly the Pro-Com heater with the furnace only as a backup.
Comparing our bills the average daily temperatures for both Decembers was 25 degrees. We saved $114.09 December 2012 over December 2011 on gas and electric.
So I would say it's an easy 6 month payback and much more comfortable.
When we walk in the door and the warm air hits us in the face it makes us wish we had known about this heater years ago.
January 9, 2013
Great Heater 4 years and going strong
I've had this heater now for 4 years. The first year I installed it to "supplement" the oil fired steam boiler heating system, and it worked great. The second year I decided to give it a try to see how it would do as the only source of heat. It worked great! We never turned on the oil heat again. This is now the 4th heating season, the stove is in great shape, no issues there, and we haven't bought a drop of oil in over 3 years now. We heat a 110 year old 2 story, 3 bedroom 1400 sq.ft. colonial that is lacking in insulation in some parts, with this heater in the living room on the 1st floor. We do have a small oil-filled radiator style electric heater in the upstairs bathroom to keep that room a little warmer, but the rest of the house relies on this unit, and we do not have the blower. In all, even factoring in the extra electricity for the bathroom heater, we've cut out heating bill by about 30% over what oil was costing us.
January 3, 2013
Had bought another LP gas fireplace to heat our chopped up layout in our home and it was great...inexpensive compared to electric heat. We put an additional family room onto our house, tried to find the same fireplace with no result.
We bought this fireplace in its place. The shipping was fast, arrived in great condition, easy installation (my husband did it) and it does the job but the only thing is the WOOSH when it first ignites. We cleaned it out, and it still wooshes...got the first gas bill from that stove and it was doubled what the other fireplace was...so I thought it was a fluke..no fluke...this is our 2nd winter with that stove and the gas bill is double what the other stove is...so woosh goes all my money. The description neglects to tell you that it is a "U" shape burner as where my other is just plain two straight rows...so I am diligently looking for an insert to put into this one...the money that I spend for a new insert will save me the next month when the gas bill comes...and just a side note...we turn off both stoves during the day while we are working to save on the propane....any one else having same issues?
December 8, 2012
Sun Room Heat.
I got a price from my propane suppler for a heater for my sun room. $$$$$$ So I started looking around. I was told I only needed around 10-15000 BTU heater. Well the wife did not like the look of them and so you know I had to get the QT250T that she liked. I ran about 45' 1/2" copper to hook it up. After the hook up I restarted the fireplace logs then the tankless water heater with no problem. Then to start the Pro Com heater. I held the button in and the straker until I thought the battery was going to give up. It was late so gave up for the night. Next dad I opened the door and took the gas line lose turned on the gas valve cut off and let it go until I could see ( looks like heat coming off the road on a hot day ) the gas coming out to make sure the line was not stopped up then closed the gas valve and reattached the line. Now there is no more than 2' from the gas valve and the stove and it still took a very long time to get the pilot lit. So just to let you know as others said like some other things the first time it is hard to light just don't give up. By the way the wife is very Happy. The room is 14'x20' with no ceiling and all glass sliding doors. So far it is doing a great job, we don't use the room every day so it does take awhile to heat but it does heat the room and I am not using the fan. It was very easy to put together. The top does get to hot to put any thing on.
November 25, 2012